When people say, “I’m not political,” they often believe they are stepping away from conflict — but what if stepping away is itself a political act with lasting civic consequences? In this compelling episode of Coup Save America, host Sean St. Heart welcomes Carl Able, retired Marine Corps Gunnery Sergeant and founder of Crayon Box Politics, to examine how political disengagement quietly reshapes democracy from within.
Together, they unpack the deeper implications of opting out — how apathy and withdrawal don’t create neutrality but rather concentrate power in the hands of the most ideologically motivated voters. From low-turnout primaries to civic disillusionment and media fatigue, this conversation explores how millions of “non-political” choices collectively tilt the balance of democracy toward polarization and extremism.
Carl draws from his two decades of service and his current work in civic technology to show that re-engagement isn’t just possible — it’s essential. Through Crayon Box Politics and his upcoming AI-driven platform The Archivist, Carl is making government information more transparent and accessible, lowering barriers that keep ordinary citizens at the margins of political life.
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